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Peter Gerdes's avatar

That's very interesting as a policy discussion (I hope legislatures apply that framework). Indeed, I think many people who get obsessed with who gets to compete in what sport in highschool are missing the fact that the real goal isn't about figuring out who is best at sport but an enjoyable and educational experience (and that changes at more elite levels)

But whatever else might be true it can't be the case that the mere change in usage of a term in language changes the way a law applies or doesn't -- and our modern discussion of the sex/gender distinction don't necessarily apply to the term as used in those laws. That kind of rule would be chaos and make our fights about terminology even more problematic and undemocratic.

And as much as I want trans people to be protected it's a good thing if we have to fight this put via the democratic process. Yes, the lack of legal protection will be hard on many people but in the long run real protection will only come with a social consensus and I fear that this only comes about via the hard process of political and social discussion which is harder to have if the court acts first (unlike in Obergerfel where the court recognized what had become a social reality/inevitability).

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P.S. the kind of argument that worked in Bostock just isn't as applicable here. That argument worked because part of the intent behind title 7 was to prevent employers from using conformity with gender stereotypes to police employment (so you can't say that we hire non-gay men and women for the same reason you can't say we hire both men and women who wear gender appropriate clothing). Especially because if you push that argument too hard you end up with extreme results like eliminating women's sports.

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Lauren Shuler's avatar

This is such an interesting and difficult issue of competing rights claims. I want so badly for transgender people to have full rights and privileges, and while I was too young when the anti-gay movement was going on to have been very aware of it, I feel like the strong reaction to trans rights often comes from a very similar discriminatory place, and I refuse to be a part of that. But then aside from discriminatory motivations (or perhaps not separate from that?), there are genuine questions as to bathrooms, locker rooms, prisons, sports, surgeries for minors, and how it should be taught/discussed by teachers in schools. When it comes to rights and prohibitions, I really hope we keep in mind the relatively very small number of transgender persons - i.e., we should think about what an extraordinary impact a right/prohibition will have on one transgender person vs. the relatively very small number of cisgender people that right/prohibition will affect. Difficult stuff.

As to the constitutional issues, I actually just wrote a paper for law school on the potential for finding protection for transgender persons under the Equal Protection Clause. It seems to me that the Supreme Court would have to recognize a new "quasi-suspect" class (transgender status or gender identity), rather than rely on sex as it did in Bostock. I re-listened to the portion of the Bostock oral argument (the part argued by David Cole) dealing with the transgender petitioner and many justices actually frequently asked about that point - fitting transgender rights into discrimination on the basis of sex vs. recognizing a new category of protection against discrimination on the basis of transgender status. It's hard for me to see how defining sex for the purposes of the EPC to mean only sex assigned at birth could really fit with the Court's precedent. As I understand it, the Court has drawn a line between classifications based on the biological differences between the sexes (e.g., Nguyen v. INS, finding no EPC violation for that reason) and classifications based on gender stereotypes (e.g., US v. Virginia, finding EPC violation for that reason). In Bostock, Cole had to argue that it was a gender stereotype to discriminate based on "sex assigned at birth" because it's the "ultimate gender stereotype" to assume that someone assigned male at birth will live as a man for his entire life. Felt a bit strained to me in the context of EPC precedent.

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