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Posting this on behalf of a law student reader (edited to preserve anonymity):

"Hope you are well. I just read your advice column on clerking and really enjoyed it. Thank you for sharing. I guess I wanted to share some of my thoughts re: clerking, in that oftentimes it favors the economically advantaged, and those who have minimal obligations.

Here are my observations. I go to a top-25 law school, and we are respected enough that if I really pushed it I could land a clerkship, at least I hope. What holds me back though is the need to cash checks as soon as I can.

I admit I am an unusual law student. I'm in my late 20s and have wonderful children. They all motivate me in ways that I cannot describe to succeed in law school. I've done well in law school. I am certainly not a world-beater, but I know at least 80% of students in our school would love to be in my spot. In addition, I played an active role in law review.

So I think I would be a good candidate for a clerkship, and I would love to do it. Yet what holds me back is I lack the financial independence to justify a year, maybe two, of taking nearly a $120,000 pay cut. I am off to a really well-respected law firm, and when I stare at the difference in paycheck, and realize I would have to haul my family to a temporary location, clerking becomes much less attractive. There are many judges I would love to clerk for, but I cannot (at least I feel I cannot) take the pay cut, plus start one of my kid's kindergarten in a place they would only be for a year.

Sorry, I think I am venting. Not sure what I wanted you to get out of this. I know you don't have any magic powers over the system, and I know I have it much better than many who are wrestling with the paycheck vs. the experience. I guess I just wish clerkships were more accessible for those who cannot afford to sacrifice immediately. I guess if you have any advice I would personally appreciate that.

Anyway, I love the work you do. Thank you."

I think this reader makes an excellent point. Here's how I responded:

"Your point is well-taken. During my two-year detour into legal recruiting, I tried to place this wonderful Biglaw associate into a boutique. The problem was that they didn't have a clerkship, and most of the elite NYC boutiques pretty much require one. So I asked them one day why they never clerked. The associate said, 'I totally would have wanted to. But I needed to help support—and still support—my family back home.'"

On the advice piece of it, I guess I'd say that this person could perhaps conduct a limited clerkship search, confined to the city they'll be moving to for their firm job. If they get a clerkship, great (and they won't have to uproot their family after a year); if they don't, then c'est la vie.

Also, many law firms do offer clerkship bonuses. So in terms of the financial hit, the bonus doesn't cover all of it, but it should at least be taken into account as part of the calculus (i.e., the hit isn't as big as it might look, if your firm pays a clerkship bonus).

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I was a clerk (EDNY). Best experience of my life. Wish I could do it forever. But knowing the judge is important. In my day, everyone (including me) sent out blanket clerkship "applications". I had an interview with a judge in another district (different state). He had a picture of Nixon on his wall (this was 1990). He started out the interview by saying "So. You're a Jewish fella. Huh."

After the interview, his clerks had to "debrief" me and tell me that, no matter what he said to me (they weren't in the room), the judge was not a bad guy.

We were blessed at that time that the cost of law school was not so prohibitive as to preclude a clerkship (I paid for law school with loans), but I did have to live at home to make it work. It was a two-hour commute, we worked from 7 AM until at least 7 PM, and did it six days a week. And it still was the best job ever.

My only regret is that, at the time, I knew very little about how to actually litigate. Hiring clerks straight out of school, with no actual legal experience, now strikes me as odd and suboptimal. I wish I knew what a discovery dispute was, for example. I have cases (in state court) where the judge will have his clerk hold the conference, you'll explain the dispute to her, and she just doesn't get it and provides direction that helps nobody.

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